Second edition 'Black Strat'

The second edition of 'The Black Strat: A History of David Gilmour's Black Fender Stratocaster'This is the cover of the second (hardback) edition of Phil Taylor’s book, ‘The Black Strat: A History of David Gilmour’s Black Fender Stratocaster’.

Published by Hal Leonard, it will be available from all good retailers, and probably some rubbish ones, from 22 September.

It has a changed layout, a total of 160 pages (that’s 36 more than the first edition) and some previously unseen photographs.

Please note that this is not the one which comes included with the David Gilmour Stratocaster; that’s the first (softback) edition, which is no longer available.

Should anyone be waiting for some official comment about the price of the Signature Strat(s), please don’t, because, clearly, none is forthcoming. The prices are here, in the Fender Custom Shop’s latest catalogue. Your local music shop should be able to help you further.

The chatroom is closed today, but open tomorrow from 11:00 (UK).

Author: FEd

Features Editor of David Gilmour’s official blog, The Blog (‘Features’ previously being its rather naff title), affectionately – or lazily – shortened to ‘FEd’.

97 thoughts on “Second edition 'Black Strat'”

  1. Fender have cocked up on that price list PDF file… The Black Strat is apparently ‘Mercedes Blue’?

    Doesn’t anybody check anything anymore?

  2. Hello Fed!

    If it is interesting also for other fans, tomorrow evening on German´s TV Arte 23.00 p.m. we will see Pink Floyd “Live at Pompeii”.

    And here is my little story about our concert in Venice two years ago:

    […]

    [Please hold on for a little longer, Ina. A post for memories from Venice will be here soon. – FEd]

  3. I think the price should be part of the Latest News blurb. Why is it not made clear?

    Not for the first time, it seems that David’s Management have chosen to ignore the unpopular part of the story: the price. Thanks for finally confirming the price here, FEd.

    I take the point about build quality, but it’s too much for me to spend on a guitar.

  4. This is probably going to sound really cheeky, but can I ask why David’s Management don’t have the Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Prices when Fender are quoting figures on their site? Are they just letting Fender do/charge what they like?

    Also, why is the guitar coming with so many extra bits and bobs, it looks as if they are putting those in to try and justify the price. The quality of the guitar should justify the price, stuffing all the extra bits in makes it look as if it is overpriced and they know it.

    I really don’t think this has been handled well at all – sorry.

    [I think Fran hit the nail on the head. – FEd]

  5. FEd, thanks for the info about this great book of Phil and for giving us a price indication of the new Strat!

    Regarding the price, it’s like paying a lot of money for a first class bottle of wine… you get what you pay for.

    I am glad this is not a limited edition: the price would be MUCH higher!

    Cheers,
    Ernest

  6. By the way, how much did that limited edition Gerald Scarfe guitar sell for as well as some of the other memorabilia that was recently sold for charity?

    Is that auction over? Will you provide a blog update entry on that? I don’t even remember seeing a pic of that Scarfe guitar.

    Thanks.

    Andrew

    [There will be an update on the guitar in about two weeks. Bidding hasn’t started yet. – FEd]

  7. Decent performance from The Pool at the weekend. 🙂

    [Moving on to a happier topic… Nice job, Paul. Very slick. – FEd]

  8. Gotta agree with Fran and Lorraine. I laughed at that part on Latest News where it says that you don’t have to buy it. When Management say that, you know it’s because they know that it’s too expensive for most people to buy but don’t want to tell you how much it is! LOL!

    I also agree with Pawel. The black Strat should come with a hardback because anyone who wants this guitar has already bought the softback. They should have known that. It’s pretty obvious.

  9. How nice! David’s Management have just mentioned the price! As usual, it’s too little and too late, and you have to scroll down the Latest News page for the story. Isn’t that convenient?

    [What’s that they say about buses? – FEd]

  10. Hi Fed,

    Not that bad a price really, I don’t think! A Strat Deluxe is approx £1,500, however you can buy one for nigh on a grand if you shop around.

    Hang fire until the demand stops, and like Didier Drogba in the box the price will tumble down!

    I reckon nearer £1,500 for the new old one (what’s that all about?) is nearer the mark in a few months.

    I will hang around for a bit and see ‘what’s occurring’!

  11. Well, I made enquiries with my local guitar shop here in Brum and I was informed that the Gilmour relic is £3,200 and Fender informed that guy that only 500 guitars were destined for the UK. The next batch will be available in January.

    I never asked what the retail price of the NOS is though. And I do not know how accurate the above information is that I was given. But the shop said all the Gilmour guitars are selling like hotcakes.

    Best regards.

    Julie

  12. Me again! Sorry FEd and everyone, but I need to vent. I feel VERY let down by all this.

    Some of us have been hoping for this guitar for decades. Hubby was always sure that this day would come, but I never believed that David would give in and let Fender make one. I always thought he had more pride and wasn’t greedy like the others! Now that he has given in, I expected it to be handled better.

    I didn’t think it would come cheap, but I didn’t think it would cost this much either!

    [Also, why is the guitar coming with so many extra bits and bobs, it looks as if they are putting those in to try and justify the price. – Lorraine]

    I agree! As Johnnie said in an earlier thread, these things are only bumping up the cost. Any true fan has the paperback edition of the book. Like Pawel, most fans have a copy because they bought it when it was first released. Then they bought another copy because Phil started signing them! Why isn’t the hardback edition included instead?

    Because we have to buy that separately of course!

    Why isn’t the CD the deluxe set? And why is “Wot’s…” only on the record? Because it’s a ploy to get us to buy more than we need! They did it with “Island” and they’re doing it again.

    I always thought David was better than this, but his people have been leading us a merry dance for a while now and I think it’s disgraceful how it’s allowed to happen!

    Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest! As you can probably tell, I’m SO angry about this!

    [Quite alright, I understand. You don’t go to Tesco for a loaf of bread and find that you have to pay £25 because it comes with butter, jam and a toaster that you don’t even need, do you? You just want the damn bread. And, if there’s no other way to get your loaf minus everything else that Tesco want you to have, perhaps you reach the stark conclusion that you can live without bread… and buy some crumpets instead. By the way, did you ever get one of the ringtones? – FEd]

  13. Of course off topic, but: I like the new loop on the home page. It was a relief after last week’s one. 😀

    I only heard it today, since the weekend was spent on social events, and a Deep Purple concert where I enjoyed Steve Morse a lot and had the honor to accompany my daughter to her first live concert.

    Best regards,

    Taki
    Bavaria

    [That sounds great, Taki. I hope you both enjoyed it. – FEd]

  14. I doubt management is going to have much of a comment if any on the price. The really annoying thing here is that retailers are capitalizing on the demand at the initial release by not proving any discount at all on the retail price (which is in Fender’s catalog).

    Typically stores sell guitars with 20-30% off retail, but not so with the David Gilmour signature, at least for now. All of the ones I’ve talked to are not offering any discount or room for negotiation.

    Maybe one day you can get it at a discount, but I’m not going to be holding my breath. It will be some time before we see it available for anything less than retail, I’m guessing. Even then it will probably remain over $3k US.

    I can’t wait to see one. It will be at least a year before I buy one.

    As for Phil’s book, I must say that I hope this new revised edition fills in the blanks and fixes errors that have come to light from the first edition.

    FEd, any price on the 5 disc Live in Gdansk yet?

    -K

    [Funnily enough, no. Sorry about that. – FEd]

  15. [By the way, did you ever get one of the ringtones? – FEd]

    NO! This is what I mean. That kind of stunt only cheapens David’s name.

    Of course I accept that we don’t have to buy if we don’t want to, but I liked it before whoever pulls the strings now started putting David’s name on all sorts of unsuitable things!

    I had more respect for David when he DIDN’T have his own mobile tones, thank you!

  16. [Deep Purple concert where I enjoyed Steve Morse a lot. – Taki]

    Smokin’ player!!!….hope to see him one day.

    Cheers
    Paul

  17. Fed,

    All of this bashing of DG and his management in relation to this Strat is irritating the crap out of me. Did everyone believe that this guitar would cost $1,500-$2,000? The dealers have a price that they have to pay to get one from Fender. They can charge anything that they want up to that suggested retail price based on how much profit that they want to make…there is no exact price as of right now.

    This is a collector’s guitar. It is going to be expensive and that actually doesn’t make ME unhappy. I don’t want to walk into every club that I go to and see one of these. They are special.

    I’m sorry if the price doesn’t fit into what ‘everyone was hoping’. Get a life! Gilmour has done a lot for his fans. Leave him alone about this.

    It pisses me off to read some of these comments that are ridiculous imo.

    Fran,

    Take it easy. Wow…that was a lot of venting.

    I have 2 words…supply and demand. This is a business and DG is part of that just like anyone else. I think these comments on this particular subject are RIDICULOUS!

    Please, DON’T BUY IT!

    Blake in Nashville

  18. There’s obviously some genuine disappointment around about the price and looking at the price list, this is the most expensive one … but not by a massive margin.

    We would expect that, after making sure the guitar is of suitable quality, and David being a “premium brand”, that this guitar would be at the higher end of the scale, wouldn’t we?

    David’s prime concern was surely to make sure that the guitar was a proper representation of The Black Strat. Pricing was I suspect not in his gift.

    Last time I looked, Fender and retailers were commercial organisations … why should anyone expect this to be discounted below its market value? If it doesn’t sell, the price will drop. If it does sell, then they got it right. It really is that simple.

    So what’s uh the deal? It was never going to be cheap or it would never have been made. It’s aimed at those who wish to buy a premium guitar, not the average fan.

    The extras add, what, $100 to the price… or maybe they don’t. Think of them as free if you like.

    I think the soundest advice has been said a few days ago … if you want a “real” signature Strat, do what David did and adapt it yourself … or better still, just be happy making music on whatever you can afford.

    In this way, contentment lies.

    On a lighter note F’ed, is there a Bob Dylan signature harmonica on the market ? 🙂

  19. [All of this bashing of DG and his management in relation to this Strat is irritating the crap out of me. – Blake]

    I’m not bashing DG, just his management, LOL! They should have had the guts to tell us what it’s gonna cost up front instead of hiding for a week and then sneaking it in behind a story about RTN where you can’t see it!

    I think that’s pretty low.

  20. The catch with this guitar, and the reason it’s not in the $1500-$2000 (USD) range some were hoping for, is simple.

    This is a Fender Custom Shop Guitar, not a production model.

    Had it been a production model, there would be no relic version, no NOS version, and the quality would have been slightly suspect. You would basically have bought a ’57 re-issue Strat with perhaps different pickups and a shortened bar.

    But since it is a CS guitar, you are getting Fender’s top of the line in parts, electronics, detail, and people working on this guitar.

    And yes I am just as disappointed with the price as most folks are. But I also know what you are getting for the money. And $4,000 for a NOS CS guitar isn’t a bad deal at all. In fact, most of Fender’s CS NOS guitars are that price and up, and they are not DG guitars.

    And another thing, since it is a CS piece, there will more than likely be no discount on the price.

    While I probably cannot afford this one either, it is still worth the cost.

  21. wow… how to justify this… in using David’s name, he MUST be getting a cut… now the question would be, did David use any of his cut to bring the price of the guitar down? is he sending his cut to crisis? or, is he pocketing his?

    all dirty little questions, but one’s that deserve answering. not that i think they will be here.

    having said all that, i have ordered mine. unfortunately, it’ll have to remain under the bed in order to keep the investment.

  22. Many good responses today.

    This is a business surely, and the cost for David’s guitar is reasonable. He wouldn’t have or agreed to do this venture unless it satisfied him. I respect him wholeheartedly for that.

    I know that I can’t afford one right now, but I am happy with my Blondie. She’s never let me down, only wailing the blues!

  23. Thanks for the update on The Black Strat (book). I can’t wait to buy it, along with my 5 Disc Deluxe Live in Gdansk. (Oh yeah, I’m not holding back for this baby!!)

    As far as the guitar goes…well…It would have been a treat to buy since I am in the market for a new one. But, it’s just way out of my league. I still have to pay for college.

    And I have come to the (personal) realization that I don’t want to be David Gilmour. I want to be me, and my guitar should be a reflection of that. I am much better off buying Fender Licensed parts and constructing a guitar that suits my sound, my style, and my wallet.

    Of course I still wish David, the band, and You the very best and I certainly hold no hard feelings for this monetary shock.

    Best,
    -Ax

  24. I don’t play guitar but my daughter does so I asked her opinion on all the controversy and argument over the price of this guitar.

    She tells me a “decent” (and I nearly dropped through the floor at this) Martin can cost £6000. A Lowden, £3000. She named a few others but I forget. The guitar players out there know what I’m on about.

    Her opinion is that we should consider the amount of research that has gone into the making of this particular guitar. By my reckoning, David and Phil alone have been researching this for 30 plus years. I don’t expect to not pay for someone’s work, research, cleverness.

    I would have thought anyway that each guitarist may have to adapt his guitar in different ways to compensate for different musculature and function in his hands. As others have pointed out already, adapt your own, it may be more satisfactory anyway.

    Finally, given who the designer(s) is (are), it’s probably a damn good deal.

    ash X

  25. Wow, I can feel the heat right through my computer’s monitor! People are really peeved about this. Hell apparently hath no fury like a Gilmour fan overcharged.

    $4000 is a lot of money, and I can understand why people are disappointed.

    But here’s my take on it.

    The price of such things usually goes down once the novelty wears off. Over time, I expect the price to fall into line with what people want to pay for it. I also expect them to stop marketing it with the book and the CD, to sell it simply for the fine instrument that it is. THIS is when I would buy!

    Fans have waited for a very long time for this guitar. I think that those who really want one can wait another year or so. Just wait it out. Fender will lower its price to what the public will bear.

    Certainly, I would not get mad at Gilmour or his people. They don’t set Fender’s price. What would they gain from that, or from withholding information from the fans?

  26. That is the most venting I have ever seen on the blog, Fran.

    I agree with Tim and Blake, it is a collectible guitar, not intended to be used at every gig and such. Why everybody is overreacting, I don’t know. I didn’t expect it to be under $5000, compared to the PRS Santana model.

    Hope this wasn’t too frank for my first post…

    [Welcome, Anthony. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. – FEd]

  27. Another thing that I was informed of at the guitar shop was I would not be able to try a Gilmour Strat out as they would be by special order only. 🙁

    Maybe Tinpan Alley will be more accommodating.

    [Oh dear. – FEd]

  28. Good morning FEd!

    Off-topic, but perhaps interesting for tv-junkies (click my name). 😉

    Tonight, the main topic on Arte, German/French TV-station, is sex, drugs and rock’n’roll. At 23:00h Pink Floyd at Pompeii will be shown.

    Unfortunately, the chat-dates in the next days do not match with my working time 🙁 so on this way all the best to chatters and bloggers.

    CU
    Herbert

    [Thanks, Herbert. Hope to see you in the chatroom soon. – FEd]

  29. I know it is quite a disappointment for some people the price; but let us remember this is a serious musical instrument, not a DVD, or anything produced for the masses.

    One of my cousins just paid $7000 US for an Oboe.

    So, let us not forget that at the end of the day, it is a proper musical instrument with high-end quality, even supervised by Gilmour himself. All in all is a fair price for what it is.

    In my personal case: Am I good enough a musician for justifying buying it? May be no. Do I want it? Yes. So, even though is as much money as an used car, I will start saving from now, because David Gilmour is the person who inspired me to start learning how to play a guitar, and I will be so happy to have an instrument inspired and supervised by him.

    Well, it was just my two cents.

    Cheers,
    Manuel.

  30. Aaaah,

    No flashback for August 4th and 5th? The Venice stage incident?

    [You want one? You wouldn’t rather forget? – FEd]

  31. I think they should have included the hardback edition with the DG Signature Strat because most of us have already bought the softback.

    Oh well. :S

  32. The PDF has now been corrected so my first comment no longer makes any sense to the new reader. Shame that… I wanted a ‘Mercedes Blue’ Black Strat. 😉

  33. I often hope that David reads this blog and gains as much entertainment as we all often do. Just a group of like-minded people passing the time of day, holding hands across the world.

    However, with all the adverse comments flying ’round about the new DG Strat I now hope he’s kept away from it!

    I particularly object to the comments regarding his “cut”. He hasn’t done this for the money, the man has more money than he’ll ever need. He has given his most valuable asset, his time, to us in overseeing a project that has been in public demand for years.

    The price is realistic, the extras are somewhat superfluous (except for the EA cable!) but the quality will surpass many of our home-made efforts.

    The fact that there IS a DG signature Strat is a fine tribute to David, but we don’t all need to have one to appreciate this.

    Peace to all in Gilmourland!

    Paul_C

  34. [Oh dear. – FEd]

    I wasn’t moaning here, FEd. Honest!

    It’s just that the guitar shop that I visit in Brum have the Jeff Beck Strat which is verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyy nice and the George Harrison Telecaster so I thought that David’s Strat would be taking pride of place there. However, if they are all sold out I guess it would be an impossibility of trying one out.

    Funnily enough I had a dream about playing a Strat last night which has a cut down tremolo arm.

    Good day to you.

    Regards.

    Julie

  35. I have to admit that I do like the look of David’s Signature Strat but I’ve already got my eye on one of the Mark Knopfler ones (click my name).

    Although I’m not too sure about the colour really as the cherry red seems a little too hip for someone as ancient as me to brandish about, lol (I do like blue though).

  36. [I’m not bashing DG, just his management, LOL! – Ben]

    But DG’s management do not have anything to do with price setting do they? I thought it was Fender. Maybe a slice will be taken out because of the name.

    I used to dream that Fender would bring out a DG Strat and when I was an active musician the price would not have bothered me. I would have bought it. But now that I am a mom and have a mortgage my priorities have changed.

    Perhaps people should wait a few years when they become second hand if they are in a quandary about the price.

    Kind regards.

    Julie

  37. Hello.

    What is making me angry is: on http://www.fender.com the price for David Gilmour’s Strat, NOS model, is 3990 dollars.

    But the Fender dealers in Norway has the lowest price on NOS to be: 28300 NOK or 5600 USD!

    How can it be such a big difference? Now I don’t have money to buy it. I have only 4000 USD, not 5600 USD!

    Can anybody please explain how there can be such a big price difference????????????????????

  38. All that are griping about the Strat, sing along with Janis:

    Oh Lord, won’t you buy me
    a Mercedes Benz
    My friends all drive Porsches
    I must make amends
    Worked hard all my lifetime
    no help from my friends
    So Lord, won’t you buy me
    a Mercedes Benz

    Oh Lord, won’t you buy me
    a color TV
    “DIALING FOR Dollars”
    is trying to find me
    I wait for delivery
    each day until three
    So oh Lord, won’t you buy me
    a color TV

    Oh Lord, won’t you buy me
    a night on the town
    I’m counting on you, lord
    please don’t let me down
    Prove that you love me
    and buy the next round
    Oh Lord, won’t you buy me
    a night on the town

    You really want it, do it the old fashioned way…save your pennies.

    Thanks.

    Andrew

  39. I think I knew all along it (the DG Strat) would be out of my price bracket. It probably isn’t overpriced for a tribute Fender. Maybe we thought that DG would have more influence in the pricing & also perhaps we could all see ourselves with the Strat around our necks as some sort of favour for being a fan.

    I would love the guitar, I would love the extras too. The cable alone is worth over £50-00 (I looked on e:bay) but I agree adding these extras to a justifiably, in my opinion, expensive guitar is going to push the cost over my budget…..at the moment.

    At least the guitar is made & is available to buy one day when the price is right (a bit like Gareth Barry).

  40. [Certainly, I would not get mad at Gilmour or his people. They don’t set Fender’s price. What would they gain from that, or from withholding information from the fans? – NewYorkDan]

    They must have known the price! It wouldn’t be happening if they didn’t agree to it, so why didn’t they come clean about the price from the start? It’s pretty obvious that they only told us yesterday because of comments here. Look how many of us said we contacted Fender and got a price last week, LOL! How come we all knew the price before them? That’s pants.

    Note to management: the price is kinda important, LOL!

  41. At first I was shocked…..but then I placed an order anyway….

    Please realize that this is a “Custom Shop” instrument – made by master luthiers, as well as premium pickups hand wound by Abigail herself (she was the one who actually custom made Jimi Hendrix’s pickups back in the day).

    If you compare this guitar to other signature models – it’s not all that bad. Just look at the price tag for Jimmy Page’s Les Paul!

    I plan on keeping this guitar for the rest of my life, so $4,000.00 doesn’t seem all that bad for an instrument that will last far longer than any car I will ever own!

    My only gripe is that it doesn’t come with the deluxe 5 disk edition of Live at Gdansk…that’s a bummer – guess I will have an extra copy…

  42. Get a life, Fran etc… Work harder and make more “bread” if you want the guitar, but don’t blame David and the gang for putting out something that WILL sell… It’s called capitalism.

    The funny thing is that I could predict all this “outrage” would occur the day the announcement was made about the guitar on the blog… Very predictable stuff…

    I purchased the “Rory Gallagher Tribute Stratocaster” a while back and never heard a single complaint from anyone about the price…

    It’s from the Fender Custom Shop… The only people that are surprised are the people who don’t really have a clue about these things… But I really think it’s people just having a “dig” at David…

    The “feeling” for “today” is “The Dark Side Of The Moon!!!” Enjoy!!! :^)

  43. I understand that it’s a high-end collectable and it’s OK that I can’t afford to buy it.

    My point is that the extras are RIDICULOUS and another way of making us part with more money!

    It should be the hardback book and deluxe set from Gdansk. Better still, no extras at all!

    Like FEd said, you don’t go out for bread and find that you can only get it if you buy jam, butter and a toaster!

    Ben is SO right about how David’s Management hid the prices behind another story. I find it very hard to believe that they didn’t know the prices until tea time yesterday. Most likely they didn’t want to tell us and we pressured them into making a statement. I have been reading for a long time and that’s happened more than once.

    Oh, and by the way, I have a life, thank you. Maybe that’s why I can’t afford this guitar!

  44. On this day 2 years ago, I bought my tickets for the Gdansk show…just remembering how excited and frightened I was.

  45. I’ve just found prices from the shop “guitar, guitar” and for the NOS version it is £2499 and for the other version it is £2899.

    It might be cheaper to fly to America to buy one!!

  46. [That sounds great, Taki. I hope you both enjoyed it. – FEd]

    Of course we did, it was live rock and roll. 🙂

    Maybe we’ll get a chance to attend a DG concert as family somewhere in time…

    Best regards,

    Taki
    Bavaria

    [I hope so. – FEd]

  47. I have to admit that I have no interest in either guitar or book, but I wanted to add that it is always refreshing to find that all opinions are welcome here.

    Features Editor, as always, you do an admirable job of allowing differing views to be represented here and I applaud your honesty and candour.

    I do not read the Latest News. Not wishing to offend or provoke, I shall leave it at that.

    Unlike Paul C, I happen to hope that David does follow this discussion. For me at least, it has been an enlightening and stimulating one, with all points well-intended and valid (although “Get a life” is hardly necessary).

    [Thank you for that. All points are certainly valid and I’m very grateful for them. – FEd]

  48. [I’ve just found prices from the shop “guitar, guitar” and for the NOS version it is £2499 and for the other version it is £2899. It might be cheaper to fly to America to buy one!! – Lewis McInnes]

    Whereabouts is that? The guitar (music) shop called Reverb gave me a price of £3,200. Maybe that is the shop’s cut as well.

    Perhaps I should get one of my sisters in the States to send some over to us here in Blighty.

    Best regards.

    Julie

  49. Considering the price of the other signature guitars available, I’m immensely disappointed with the price of this one.

    I’ve been looking forward to buying this guitar for months, encouraged by the fact that David said this guitar was going to be affordable to the average musician…only to find that the price is almost double any other signature Stratocaster!

    Well, here’s one avid fan who will not be buying this guitar. I would much rather spend my money building one that replicates it, and for half the price!

  50. Hi Fed,

    I’m not sure how good your German is, but you may like this (click my name).

    After reading it, I had to think of all those discussions about getting a real life here in the blog.

    Best regards,

    Taki

    [Sehr lustig… und ja, ein kaltes Bier klingt gut. (Ich spreche nur ein bißchen Deutsch, aber genug für den Witz – danke.) – FEd]

  51. One does not have to “own” anything or everything to appreciate things. How about sharing or loaning? Easy, job done.

    Yes, I know it doesn’t excuse any suspect marketing ploys but the only way to counter that is to be clever and work around it.

    Ian

  52. [One does not have to “own” anything or everything to appreciate things. How about sharing or loaning? Easy, job done. – Ian Pearson]

    Splendid idea!!!

    …Can you buy it and then loan it to me?

  53. I like Ian’s idea. At the library you can check out books. As a community we share ideas. Perhaps we can formulate a plan to create a library of musical instruments that can be checked out for use.

    As an example, similar to the way Stradivarius violins are shared amongst high-end performers in orchestras, maybe a similar plan can be hatched for high-end electronics and ‘other’ instruments to be used in historically significant settings.

    For instance: the recent AHM piece at Cadogan Hall. It would have been interesting if Mun Floyd were allowed the use of actual PF instruments during their performance. Surely a rental of some type would be agreed upon, and the proceeds would benefit Crisis or the like.

    Now I’m not saying David allows his prized instruments out the door . . . but of the several hundred or so pieces in his collection, their is no doubt a couple handful of folks who may be deemed worthy enough to play with some of his ‘toys’.

    Just a thought.

    Maybe something like this can help some of you. Click my name.

  54. [I particularly object to the comments regarding his “cut”. He hasn’t done this for the money, the man has more money than he’ll ever need. He has given his most valuable asset, his time, to us in overseeing a project that has been in public demand for years. – Paul_C]

    Now Paul, do you really believe ANYBODY thinks that David put out a signature model for income??? The main reason artists put out a signature model is not for you or me, it’s so that they can put their number one away, and use something more off the shelf per se. To not take the black Strat on the road anymore, to only use it for recording, pulling out to show friends etc.

    I’m not trying to say this is why David did it, but I assume it’s closer to reality than not. Public demand or not, the Gilmour name is worth a “cut”, and my thoughts were “where is that cut going, he has more money than he needs”.

    So object, but face reality.

  55. Well, Dear Fed, it does sound like everyone is all excited in different ways about the Stratocaster! I don’t know enough about the sales of a guitar to know what would be fair. I don’t envy you with the task of monitoring this topic.

    I hope you are doing well. I have been away due to my Mother having some health problems. She is better now but she is still in the hospital.

    I have missed reading the blog and I am trying to catch up. It is a great distraction from the stress of the day. Thank you for that.

    Good luck with keeping them in the barn on this one Fed!

    Barbara P

    [Best wishes to your mother, Barbara. I hope she’s out of hospital soon. – FEd]

  56. Perhaps we can formulate a plan to create a library of musical instruments that can be checked out for use.

    Would you lend out the guitar to Jimi?

    [I was thinking the same of one Pete Townshend. Could get nasty. – FEd]

  57. [Note to management: the price is kinda important, LOL! – Ben]

    Ben:

    You replied to my original post, but still haven’t answered the question. What do you suppose David’s management gained by “hiding” the price of this guitar? Yes, they may not have revealed the price as soon as you’d have liked. But do you really think they did it as part of an evil plot to extort money from David’s fans? I think not.

    Syncopa:

    David has given so much of his money and time to charity over the years, that even if he is taking a “cut” for himself here, what of it? Would you have played in relative anonymity on other artists’ records for ten years, taking no pay but asking that the money be donated to charity? Would you take the environmental step of going “carbon neutral?” Are we really asking David to expect nothing in return for this guitar? He may well be giving his share to charity anyhow. Why are we being so critical of him?

    [Well said, Dan. Good points. – FEd]

  58. Some interesting thoughts on the DG endorsed Strat.

    I visited my local guitar shop today and they weren’t even aware of it. However, as I have no real intention of buying one of these expensive guitars anyway, I decided to buy one of the last two packs of DG GHS Boomers for my Squier ‘Oh dear, I don’t obviously work hard enough’ Strat instead.

    Having now opened the box of strings, I am a little confused to see that only the 48, 38 and 28 gauge strings are actually marked up as ‘Dynamite Alloy (Boomers)’ on the paper sleeves. The 16, 12 and 10 gauge strings are only marked up as ‘Plain Steel-Ball End’ with no mention of ‘Boomers’.

    Could anybody who has also purchased the ‘blue box’ of DG Boomer strings please advise me as to whether the contents of the box that I have purchased are correct or not?

    Many thanks.

  59. [But do you really think they did it as part of an evil plot to extort money from David’s fans? I think not. – NewYorkDan]

    Don’t be silly. They were just too gutless to give us the price up front, LOL!

    They only did after FEd said they wouldn’t and then they hid it behind a story about RTN coming on TV.

    Latest News likes to stay cheery. Those prices would spoil the Happy Happy Joy Joy, LOL!

    [He does have a point there, Dan. I won’t say which one, though. – FEd]

  60. [Could anybody who has also purchased the ‘blue box’ of DG Boomer strings please advise me as to whether the contents of the box that I have purchased are correct or not? – IMcK]

    IMcK,

    The contents of your string box are quite correct. Those are the strings David uses in his set. Every box I have is also that way.

  61. [The contents of your string box are quite correct. Those are the strings David uses in his set. Every box I have is also that way. – Bryan]

    Many thanks Bryan for your confirmation on the DG GHS strings. So, I guess I can’t use the excuse of some of the strings being incorrect when I attach them to my guitar and I still sound nothing at all like Mr Gilmour!

    Has anybody out there found using these particular strings to be beneficial to the sound of their guitar and/or their playing ability?

  62. [I’ve just found prices from the shop “guitar, guitar” and for the NOS version it is £2499 and for the other version it is £2899. It might be cheaper to fly to America to buy one!! – Lewis McInnes]

    If those are the UK list prices, they are £100 to £150 in excess of my considered guesses of 4th August, NOS: £2,349.99 & Relic: £2,799.99 which were calculated using the difference between the current US and UK prices of the Eric Clapton model.

  63. Personally I think the Noir Strat is a steal at the price listed.

    Talking of which, I see in the news today that Iron Maiden have had a unique white Signature Strat stolen recently, does anyone here know where it is?

    (All answers on a postcard please, minus 10 points for anyone answering Easter Island.)

  64. Graham,

    Very valid point. There are pieces that belong in a museum, no doubt about it. I would put several pieces of David’s in a museum if I could. But let’s think outside the box here for a second . . . what if David wanted to rent/use Jimi’s upside-down, left handed ax? I would certainly deem him worthy, but the institution that owns it, may not.

    Pete Townshend smashed most of his good guitars anyways.

    And when you really think about this in the grand scope of things, a good Stradivarius runs in the neighborhood of 2-3 million dollars. Kind of makes that $4-5K look like a pittance, doesn’t it?

  65. [David has given so much of his money and time to charity over the years, that even if he is taking a “cut” for himself here, what of it? Would you have played in relative anonymity on other artists’ records for ten years, taking no pay but asking that the money be donated to charity? Would you take the environmental step of going “carbon neutral?” Are we really asking David to expect nothing in return for this guitar? He may well be giving his share to charity anyhow. Why are we being so critical of him? NewYorkDan]

    maybe i’ve come across wrong… i LOVE David’s music. i entirely respect his philanthropy, but honestly this is a stratocaster. it’s not a les paul where many high grades of wood are skillfully put together… it’s not a carved top where a lot of manual labor is involved.

    i was just trying to say that it’s a cheaper guitar to manufacture, and that being David Gilmour he probably could have called his own price.

  66. [Has anybody out there found using these particular strings to be beneficial to the sound of their guitar and/or their playing ability? – IMcK]

    The wound strings are all heavier which will produce a bigger sound…..you may have to adjust your trem as it will be pulled further away from the body.

  67. Has anyone caught on to this guitar…that it is the body from all those great albums but the neck is 2 yrs old. He didn’t even use this neck for Live 8. This guitar neck on the new ‘black Strat’ is the neck from his creamy white ’57 re-issue from Momentary Lapse…used it for “On The Turning Away’ on that tour.

    This guitar has had @ 7 necks on it and so it is a little funny about all the rage…go create one of these guitar for less than half the money than the new Fender signature guitar which is $4,000.

    I do not believe they ‘hid the price’. That, to me, is ridiculous. A lot of the info. @ this guitar came late…my friend who works for Fender just got his specs last week and they were TOP SECRET. They were still ironing out details.

    I just never thought I would see the day that I would have to endure “David gets his cut’ on this site. Makes me want to vomit! That guy does the right thing ALWAYS…just the coolest cat ever!

    Show some respect please.

    Blake in Nashville

  68. Sorry Fed…I didn’t quite finish.

    I do actually believe that the real DG Strat is the candy-apple red which is the same neck and body from
    ’85-now and he played a lot of his catalogue using that guitar. He still uses it for Shine On.

    I LOVE the black Strat during the Animals years best and it CERTAINLY has a place now with that monumental RAH show in ’06 where during the Time solo he is constantly using that pick-up switch to create different sound. Very cool.

    I just wanted to spark a little conversation about that if anyone is interested. I’m just saying that necks are very important and the one on the DG Strat is new…2 yrs old. I love the whole idea of the DG Strat but just thought it was interesting that the guitar on the Hard Rock Dallas wall for 10 yrs is the DG Strat. That is kinda interesting. What do you think Fed?

    I’m just glad that it is being treated with such grace as always with the man.

    Blake in Nashville

    [Personally, I see David with a red Strat before a black one in my mind’s eye. But don’t say it too loudly, just in case someone at Fender decides that they should be knocking out red ones as well. – FEd]

  69. I bought the first edition. Didn’t include the signature from Phil. I will buy the Strat and get an another copy of it. I also want the new book.

    By end of September I’ll have 3 Black Strat books. Is that enough?

    [I should think so, Sami. Remember, there’s always eBay… – FEd]

  70. I think I’ll be waiting for the Carla Bruni signature acoustic guitar. I hear this will be a special archtop style guitar with some unique f-holes. I understand they considered making the color natural blonde but figured that would not be right. Plus included in the case will be several additional G strings.

    What do you think??

    Thanks.

    Andrew

  71. [I think I’ll be waiting for the Carla Bruni signature acoustic guitar. … Plus included in the case will be several additional G strings. – Andrew]

    I think you meant, there won’t be any strings at all. 😉

    Taki

  72. Andew:

    Re: Carla Bruni signature guitar.

    I had to go online to find out who she is, because I only knew her as Carla Sarkozi. The auction of her nude pic was in the news not so long ago. And I came across a YouTube video of Carla and guitar, neither of which made a great sound.

    This all leads me to ask: Why would you hide Carla’s assets by giving her a guitar?

  73. FE’d:

    What a lively discussion today! I love it. This is when I learn much. Good points, varied opinions, good information. Only thing, I wish some could make their point without “cut”ing remarks or so much speculation on what the price should be or what management should or shouldn’t have done.

    I don’t know much about guitar costs but expected this to be competitive in a higher category. Due to the quality that it seemed that David was striving for. I looked at the Fender site that you mentioned at it seemed that it was priced to reflect that.

    I empathize with those who may not be able to afford the guitar. I recall being very disappointed that I did not live in England and therefore could not afford to attend the 2006 concerts at the RAH or some of the other venues. But, that’s life. It’s how you handle life’s disappointments that build your character. (Excuse me while I throw another tantrum..of course, this is all David’s and his management’s fault..right?)

    Jan

  74. FE’d:

    I, too, was not finished.

    I hope that I did not offend as it really was not my intention. I am sincere about understanding the disappointment of that which you can not afford. What I am getting at is: bashing others about it is futile. You have to find a way to make peace with the situation and not make it someone else’s problem. This is only my opinion and certainly not the only answer. Just that this is how I feel and the only way I can ease my disappointments.

    Some of my favorite points here today are from Blake, New York Dan, Tim C., Bryan, Frank, Ax, Ash, Anthony, Samadhi, Luis G.. From you I learn something.

    Jan

  75. Get a life, Jan… :^))

    This guitar will be part of the Fender “stable” for years and years, so start saving your “beans” if it’s something you really want…

    No rush… It’s not “ultra” limited…

  76. [Excuse me while I throw another tantrum..of course, this is all David’s and his management’s fault..right? – Jan]

    They didn’t tell us the price until FEd challenged them to! Who else is to blame for that? LOL!

    No tantrum here. I just think it blows that we get all the extras forced on us. There are plenty of “cuts” in there.

  77. [They didn’t tell us the price until FEd challenged them to! Who else is to blame for that? LOL? – Ben)

    [I do not believe they ‘hid the price’. That, to me, is ridiculous. A lot of the info. @ this guitar came late…my friend who works for Fender just got his specs last week and they were TOP SECRET. They were still ironing out details. – Blake]

    I took Blake’s post as a good answer.

    At any rate, I still enjoyed all the posts and discussion. Lively.

    Just a thought..

    For those wanting the guitar but who already have the goodies that are coming with it, I wonder if they might find someone who still wants the extra items to share that extra cost? Or is that not a viable idea?

    As I said just a thought.

  78. What I said about that guitar is absolute truth. I was at lunch with my friend and he called to get info. because I have been pestering him. The spec. sheet was top secret…and ‘no, i didn’t see it’. There were even discussions about that pickup switch configuration.

    I think Fender had the spec. wrong on their spec. sheet and he challenged them on it right there on the phone. That guitar is 6 weeks away still and that was 2 weeks ago.

    I just don’t believe David’s management hid it…they don’t care if you buy it or not.

    It will sell, however. They had already sold 400 at that point.

    Blake in Nashville

  79. [I just don’t believe David’s management hid it…they don’t care if you buy it or not. – Blake ]

    I’d like to think they do care, but you’re probably right Blake. My point (and I speak as someone who will not be buying the guitar – so don’t really give a monkeys’s toot about the price) was that by stuffing the case full of extras; they were giving the impression that the guitar was overpriced.

    I just think the price should be based on the quality of the guitar (which I would expect to be high as David has put his name to it) that’s all.

    Again, I do not like the way this has been handled. I’m not trying to be a smart arse here. I just think David deserves better.

    [There’s now a page from Guitar & Bass magazine in the Press archive, if anyone’s interested in reading more about this guitar (not that it tells you anything that you don’t already know, I’m sure, but it does at least mention the price, plus Phil’s book is now called ‘The Black Strat Book’, which is a great title, I’m sure you’ll agree). Please click Lorraine’s name for that. – FEd]

  80. [I’m not trying to be a smart arse here. I just think David deserves better. – Lorraine]

    Must try harder. Like Guitar & Bass magazine. LOL!

  81. Yesterday, I made a poor choice in posting several remarks to the blog.

    Today, I wish to apologize to all for that. I put my two cents in about a subject that I really know nothing about. Some good points were made here yesterday. I did learn something from all of you. And I do mean ALL of you. Thank you.

    Again, my apologies.

    Jan

    [Please don’t apologise. Everyone is entitled to have opinions, and I hope you all feel comfortable enough to share yours with the rest of us whenever you get the urge to. Without them, what’s the point? For me, there’d be no point and I might as well write bland, self-indulgent news items instead. So, please, keep them coming. They make things interesting. – FEd]

  82. Jan,

    You should never have to apologize for your opinions. You can certainly change your opinion if you feel differently. But don’t let the folks here intimidate you.

    Thanks.

    Andrew

  83. [Please don’t apologise. … They make things interesting. – FEd]

    Well said! I second that!

    Taki
    Bavaria

  84. I am quite disappointed with the pricing on the DG Strats. I was hoping to get the NOS model since it is cheaper and I would love to use it as one of my main guitars, but I can’t afford a guitar that is going to still cost me over 3000 dollars.

    I thought it was supposed to be affordable?

    I don’t care how much the relic costs cause to me that is a collector’s item and I could understand paying over 3000 for it, but not for the other model.

  85. Jan,

    I’m not afraid to voice my opinion in here…huh Fed. I think that is the point of all of this, to be honest.

    And… You thought I made good points, and I agree with you TOTALLY about that.

    Blake in Nashville

    [Modest as ever, I see. I’m not sure you voice your opinion as such, Blake. Rather you tell us what someone said to you and expect us all to take it as gospel. But it all has its place. – FEd]

  86. I’ll definitely be getting this book, the hardcover and extra pages make that much more enticing than the soft cover version.

    I guess affordability of the Black Strat is in the wallet of the beholder (or something like that). Don’t think that I can swing it. I still think that it is a beautiful guitar.

    With all those extras I’m surprised that the obvious extra isn’t part of the deal – I’m referring to the David Gilmour Signature Black T-Shirt, of course. How could they forget?

    Hmmmm. I wonder what sort of guitar stand David uses? Does anyone know? Darn! I should’ve asked Phil when you gave us the chance.

  87. [Modest as ever, I see. I’m not sure you voice your opinion as such, Blake. Rather you tell us what someone said to you and expect us all to take it as gospel. But it all has its place. – FEd]

    Fed,

    well maybe @ the DG strat. But I have contributed pretty well to this site in terms of the nuts and bolts of DG. I have read a lot of material and I’m the guy who saw him all over the place in ’87 and ’88 and afterwards went and bought all of his gear and then learned how to play guitar because of those shows. I learned to play from those albums and VHS tapes of his live shows. I was a fanatic for DG when it wasn’t that popular…he got blasted for reforming Pink Floyd. I recognized immediately that he was the coolest member of Pink Floyd. THE GUY! THE SOUND!

    He was the live guy. You gotta admit that RW doesn’t look near as cool on stage as DG. DG was the live show! That is why I’m so passionate, FED. I watch RTN and can’t believe that he has actually gotten better. His playing is just unbelievable! His voice never sounded better.

    I don’t mean to come off as a know-it-all or ‘gospel-spewer’. I’m just a huge fan like everyone else here.

    Blake in Nashville

    [Like I said, it’s all good. Please, keep it coming. – FEd]

  88. Just spotted this link at Amazon UK when looking for Live in Gdansk (click my name).

    Relic: £2,899
    NOS: £2,499 (£200 off the MRP)

  89. [I was a fanatic for DG when it wasn’t that popular… – Blake]

    Sorry for asking….but when was that?

    Thanks
    Paul

  90. Anyone interested in purchasing a DG strat at the best price should ring around a few different dealers and you’ll get a better price than the ‘recommended retail price’ some people are whinging about.

    Within 5 minutes and 2 phone calls I managed to get a quote of 1000 bucks off…and that’s for the Relic.

    I’m still umming and ahhing…this guitar will either hover around the current price for 20 years or go through the roof…decisions, decisions.

  91. I am getting a great discount as well for the N.O.S. version – granted I used to work in the business – I will be getting the NOS for $800.00 off the stickered price! It’s good to know the right people….

  92. [I was a fanatic for DG when it wasn’t that popular… – Blake]

    [Sorry for asking….but when was that? – Paul]

    That’s what I was thinking, LOL!

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